Poultry health: prolapse of the vent
During the process of laying an egg the lower part of the hen’s reproductive tract is temporarily turned inside out which lets the hen lay a very clean egg. Sometimes the tissue doesn’t retract after the egg has been laid and this condition is known as a prolapse.
Prolapse is usually more prevalent in older laying hens although younger hens can also suffer if their diet is not properly balanced. Ex-batts are particularly prone with their enforced daily laying routine meaning they can develop the condition at any time.
There are things you can try to help remedy the condition but the very first thing to do is isolate the affected hen from the rest of the flock. This is because if any other hens notice they will peck at it unmercifully which can lead to more serious problems than the original prolapse. You should also stop feeding layer’s pellets/mash and give her mixed corn instead.
Rest and relaxation
It is possible that under the right conditions the prolapse can retract and heal on its own but for this to work your hen will need to be isolated, kept inactive and need regular attention.
Clean her back end off as best you can by holding it over the kitchen sink and letting warm water run over the area. This might enable you to dissolve any dried poo on the prolapsed tissues. Do not pull or pick any poo from her vent, it could harm the fragile tissues so it is safer to leave what has not washed off. Isolate the hen and try to prevent her from producing eggs for a few days so the tissue isn’t re-stressed. This allows many prolapses to heal on their own.
The recommended way to stop the laying process is to put the hen in a dark environment, the darker the better. Egg laying is dependent on the light/dark cycle of day and night. Reduce feed to a mere maintenance level and replace layer’s mash or pellets with corn so there is no “extra” nutrition that the hen needs in order to produce an egg.
This is most easily achieved using an old pet carrier or crate situated in a quiet, warm room.
Line the crate using a good layer of whatever bedding the hen is normally used to. Ensure she has feed and water dishes, preferably the type that can be attached to the door or sides of the crate so that she is unlikely to spill her water or food all over the crate floor. Keep her quiet and in the dark and she should settle down well.
Check on her at regular intervals – set a time, say hourly or two hourly at first, then the time can be lengthened after the first day if she appears to be improving. A visit twice or three times a day should then suffice .
Turn on the light when you go in to check her so that she can see her food and water to enable her to eat and drink if she wants to. This is a chance to lift her out of the crate and check her vent and give her a little fuss. Do this whilst you are cleaning away any poo, replacing any bedding and replenishing her food and water.
You can offer her scrambled or chopped up hard boiled egg mixed with a little cod liver oil and Vitamin E. The egg offers perfect protein for healing damaged tissues. The cod liver oil is also a good healer and helps fight infection. Vitamin E is a valuable aid to repairing damaged tissue. Live pro-biotic yogurt can also help avoid infection.
Preferably isolation should not exceed three days in order to avoid the flock “forgetting” the hen but do not re-introduce her if there is any sign of the prolapse remaining for the reasons mentioned earlier.
It is best to re-introduce the hen to the flock during the hours of darkness after they have gone to roost. That way when they awake in the morning it’s as if she has never been away.
Give nature a helping hand
This technique usually works well if you have the time. A quicker method is to try reinserting the prolapsed tissue yourself.
Wearing protective gloves carefully apply a lubricant around the vent area and on the prolapse itself then gently push the prolapsed tissue back into her vent. Apply firm but gentle pressure for approximately five minutes and the prolapse should stay in place.
If the prolapse pops out again use some honey on a gloved finger to push it back in. The honey will reduce any swelling and also helps prevent infection setting in.
If you’ve been advised to use haemorrhoid cream, please stop. It only makes things worse for your hen. Haemorrhoid cream is intended to help haemorrhoidal tissues by shrinking blood vessels. Even though a prolapse is at the chicken’s vent, prolapsed tissues are NOT haemorrhoids, or related to haemorrhoids (which are swollen blood vessels). Prolapses are the insides of the chicken, not swollen blood vessels. Applying creams for piles shrinks the blood vessels of the chicken’s prolapsed tissues, but does not shrink the prolapse. Instead, it inhibits blood circulation in the prolapsed tissues, drying it and making it tight and sore, which delays healing as the blood carries healing nutrients. Shrinking the blood vessels in the prolapsed tissues also means that any infection in those tissues cannot be cleared away as easily by the blood. So, although using a haemorrhoid cream seems “right” on an intuitive level, using it is actually counter-productive. In fact in some cases it can actually increase the inflammation. Use a lubricating cream instead.
If neither of these methods appear to be working take your hen to a chicken friendly vet as they may be able to suggest an alternative course of treatment and prevent any infection setting in during the healing process.
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Actually, hemorrhoids ARE prolapsed tissues. That’s PRECISELY what they are. They are prolapsed intestine/rectum and I think you are getting confused. You can have a prolapsed penis in a rooster or a reptile, etc, or you can have a prolapsed oviduct, or you can have a prolapsed intestine. The hemorrhoid creams reduce inflammation, the same as sugar water or honey, but they aren’t as messy and don’t attract debris to the tissues as badly. A prolapse that won’t self correct and has been traumatized is necessarily considered to be inflamed tissue. The best way to reduce inflammation and encourage retraction of such prolapsed tissue is with an anti-inflammatory approach. The tissue should be treated prior with sterile saline or room temp bottled water, and may be rinsed with a dilute topical rinse such as chlorhexidine gluconate .05% or weaker, and preventative systemic antibiotics can be given afterward. The best way to deal with inflamed prolapsed tissue, is to reduce the inflammation that is going to probably lead to the tissue not returning to normal, or causing the prolapse to occur again.
Many thanks for your comments Mick we love to hear readers suggestions and remedies that they have found success with and encourage discussions on this subject or any other. I should clarify on our contributor’s behalf that while haemorrhoids are indeed prolapsed tissue a prolapsed vent is not a haemorrhoid.
I love this post, you are doing a very wonderful job. Thank you so much and God bless you all.
I am struggling with a hens prolapse. I have been trying to keep her dark and all seemed well until I put her back after 3 days. She then started to lay again and Im back to square 1. I have been using haemorrhoid cream on her so will stop and try all the above. How long is it OK to do this for as I am tempted to think that it might be kinder to let her go? Also she is constantly dribbling a clear liquid and the vet doesn’t seem to know what it is. Its not smelly but its making an awful mess of her back end. Help urgently needed.
Hi Amanda, if you have tried your best with the advice here with no real improvement a trip to a chicken friendly vet would be the next step. They will be able to advise you of the most suitable course of action.
While I’m no chicken specialist, I am a wildlife rehabilitator who specializes in reptiles, which are the most similar animals to birds as far as medical treatments. I have a volunteer of the rescue who keeps chickens and I have treated hers a few times. Most things between birds and reptiles cross over medically speaking as well. I deal with prolapses also of reptiles quite often.
As I commented above, there are a few different home remedies to try. And whether using the hemorrhoid cream longer term is safe or not depends on what’s in THAT formulation. The type I use is mostly composed of shark liver oil, and that would be quite safe to use for an extended period. I would repeat the treatment. I’ve found more success with the hemorrhoid cream when sugar-water paste did not help much, but in many cases the hemorrhoid cream wasn’t enough and injections of dexamethasone steroid anti-inflammatory were required. Sometimes a suture with a stitch or two helps. I have done this before to help tighten things up for a little while, until inflammation goes down and things return to normal and most of the time the prolapse didn’t return, or at least for some time.
Take note though that I am a rehabilitator with veterinary medical skills and I have all these things available to do this myself. For the obtaining dexamethasone or suturing, you are probably going to have to consult a vet, and yes, I absolutely would recommend an avian (chicken) experienced vet. Make sure they know that chickens are not tolerant of lidocaine and similar derivatives for anesthetic. And as to whether you should put in the effort, I merely say that all things want to live, and if treatment is realistically possible, then you should treat. What would you want if YOU were the hen who was at someone else’s mercy? This is the way I look at things.
Hi all. I have a guinea hen with a prolapsed oviduct. I noticed it yesterday, though it has likely been developing for a number of days. It was severely prolapsed. After reading online, I soaked her rear in warm sugar water, applied Preparation H, and pushed the prolapse back in, holding it for at least five minutes. I could tell it wasn’t going to work because I could feel her pushing against my hand as I was holding it. It felt like she was trying to lay an egg the way she was pushing. The prolapse popped right back out. I isolated her in a crate within the coop. This morning, the redness was improved, but the tissue was still very much prolapsed. I again soaked her and tried holding it in. Again, she pushed it out. I took her to a guinea hen-friendly vet, and he put two stitches in. She popped those out immediately and laid an egg on the table. He put two more in and sent us home. She laid an egg on the way home and popped the stitches again. I applied Prep H and popped it back in, but no luck, of course. I really don’t want to put her down, but I can’t keep doing $200 surgeries daily. Is there any hope of it staying in if I keep soaking and pushing it back in? Also, the vet said she should just be eating normal food, but I see here and other places that cracked corn in small amounts will be better in order to slow egg laying. Thoughts on that? Thank you!
Anne, if the vet is charging you $200 for putting in a couple of sutures, then he’s ripping you off. You need to find a rehabber or another chicken hobbyist or small farm owner who does this themselves who will do this for you or show you how. In the meantime, there is nothing else to do except treat the tissue, keep it from drying out, keeping her on paper towels or something less irritating that you can keep damp in case she prolapses again so that the tissue does desiccate and form a micro fissure which could get infected. You will have to take these extra measures, and keep treating and trying until you get a couple of sutures in at the right spot and tightness to prevent it. It can take more than one try to get the suture in at the right spot, and also you really need to be treating her with anti-inflammatories as well, and doing whatever you can to discourage egg laying, whether that means isolating her or keeping her a little longer in the dark or something. The tissue will have to stay in for healing for sometime before it will stay. As to however you accomplish that, you will just have to decide what you can do. I do have some backyard chicken people on my facebook page though and I could ask them if you wanted to post your question to my wall. I know the veterinary stuff from a general perspective, but as to other specifics about chickens some of these other people might be able to help. Just search for Wichita Falls Reptile Rescue.
Hi,
Does any one have any comments on what to do if the prolapse appears to be a relatively firm, poo filled bit of lower intestine. It does not feel in any way egg related although the hen is due to lay soon (early spring), if not now. She is a very old, big and very frequent layer, previously healthy, shaver type hen approx 8 years old now!
Anton. Read above. The basics are the same. You need to keep the tissue moist and clean and try to get it back in there, and see a vet or a bird specialist with some skills with this. You can also see if your area has a local chicken or livestock facebook group.
I AM TRYING ALL THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED , I have A 1 YEAR OLD NHR that has had prolapses but it keeps correcting it self…? with out any intervention but tonight ,we found her needing our help ,we washed a big lump of poo away its all clean now & it all went back in on its own, we have a cage were she will be in total darkness in our warm laundry room for 3 days we hope that will at least help her to heal & will help stop her from laying any more giant eggs, we also put liquid vit C & multi vits in her water and will feed only small amounts of corn, but tonight we fed her a soft boiled egg with vit E & C & cod liver oil mixed it to it & prayed for a complete healing to our goddess of the planet Gaia, we will also try repairing the connective tissue by feeding her vit C with bioflavonoids & vit e and that will cure any human of hemorrhoids, strange that doctors wont tell you that…? but its the connective tissues that are failing in a hemorrhoid & that should be true for any prolapse as well so using that same logic ,we are going for the vitaminbs that will help to cure a hemorrhoid, well so thats our plan, just praying it works for my sweet red girl, she is other wise very healthy, nice red comb, shiny feathers & its molting season to, & she has not a feather out of place ,she is not fat , may be a bit on the thin side & has been been eating very well & free ranging all the time, we feed all kinds of fresh foods sprouts & all not just layer feed ,so other wise she looks really healthy but also she has been laying giant eggs ,so we will try the Vit C & E to help heal her connective tissues & will be using that course of action and see how it helps her, o and maybe honey or use a bit of witch hazel on any swollen parts if that ever happens ..? but im not even sure if witch hazel will burn or sting her…? I should try the witch hazel on my self, on my own cuts first to see if it stings at all..? but we pray we wont have to go that far, well so thank you all this is a great place with the best info , i have been to so far sooo very helpful…!!! take care & have a good one all 🙂
thank you all 😉
DD Absolutely do not use the witch hazel. That will burn badly and only lead to FURTHER irritation of already inflamed tissue. It’s an astringent meant for very superficial TOPICAL use, but that does not mean INTERNAL tissues which are prolapsed out. You’re dealing with internal organ tissue, remember that. This isn’t a scratch of the skin.
What you’re doing sounds OK. the fish oil containing a lot of omega 3 will help with inflammation. Quercetin will too. You need to as well as offering the supportive protective care, also offer something to aid in reducing inflammation. there are many ways to do that, pharmaceuticals such as steroids, or herbals. Keeping it clean is number one. Number two is addressing reduction of inflammation. Step three is to isolate her in a clean room environment to help prevent complications if it happens again (such as her being attacked by another bird, insects, tissue drying out, etc) and also her laying pattern needs to be interrupted to give time for this tissue to remain in place and recover. Isolating her elsewhere may help interrupt her egg laying to give that recovery time.
i have used my healing combination of vit C with bioflavonoids & vit e and that will cure any human of hemorrhoids, – See more at: http://www.pocketfarm.co.uk/hen-health-prolapse-of-the-vent/#sthash.zJkYdeA4.dpuf vitamins & fish oil, cod liver oil ,my PRORLAPSED hen is completely healed since& is fine with no sign of any problems,we have repaired her connective tissue by feeding her all the above vits spread on bread & cut up into bite size pieces, i also fed her a bit of chick food & some scratch ,trying not to feed her any thing that may cause her to begin laying eggs again ,as we were trying to halt the egg production , so her insides could heal, so this course of action has worked really well for my hen Big Red Girl a NHR, i have to say i completely recommend trying this first, & please NEVER USE WITCH HAZEL..!! THAT WOULD BE VERY PAINFUL..!! 🙁 well so GOOD LUCK ALL 🙂
sorry prolapsed hen 😉
I’m confused…you’re the one who brought up using witch hazel.
And while natural medicine may work, it is not always to be relied on exclusively. In serious cases of immediate urgency, vitamins and herbs take too long to bring results, and pharmaceuticals should be considered for life saving measures.
Hi. Since Saturdegay my duck had a prolapsed rectum after laying an egg. I laced her in a tub of warm water for 20mins and then pushed back her rectum inside. For 1 day I placed her in a dark place. Since then our precious duck has been sitting more than her usual playful self. She does walk a little around the back yard and mainly drinks but has no appetite. She took a bath on her own yesterday without my assistance. I have fed her via syringe with homemade vegie juice which she did not mind.She poos watery poo after my feed. She is definately not her cheeky self but I have seen improvement. Is this a slow recovery or should I take her to see a vet? I am strapped for cash which is why I have been giving her all the tlc and care from reading online.
I have thrown this question open to an ex-battery forum who have to deal with the problem on a regular basis.
If the prolapse has remained back in place the duck will still be feeling very sore. Some cod live oil or Vitamin E or Bonjela particularly will help soothe the sore tissue around and just inside the vent but be careful not the pull out the vent if you to apply anything inside the duck.
She will be feeling pretty miserable by now because of the soreness. Keep the duck on a maintenance diet only and reduce the feed you are giving it by syringe which is causing diarrhoea; this in itself makes the tissue in the rectum very sore.
If you bought the duck from a breeder or farmer after the duck started laying you could have some redress on them but they would probably just euthanase the duck as would a poultry vet with little knowledge of chickens or ducks even though they say they do. Vets truly experienced in chicken care are far and few between and more so vets experienced in duck care.
Ideally she should be somewhere dark and warm with a minimal amount of bedding so that it doesn’t stick to the vent – if you can get the duck the stay there on its own.
If I get a helpful reply from one of our forum members I will re-post on here.
Re Rou’s duck with a prolapse. One of my forum members rang me and told me that she was recommended to apply some child strenth Bonjela or very thin layer of Savlon cream/ointment on the outside of the vent and just inside, using your little finger and wearing gloves of course.Bonjela particularly also has an anaesthetising effect. The tissue will be sore and the duck will be feeling pretty miserable. Think of it as having piles yourself and how you would feel. The prolapse is caused by swollen blood vessels so that in itself is very uncomfortable and although the right thing to do is push the prolapse back inside the vent it inflames the surrounding tissue. If you do get some Bonjela or Savlon from a chemist don’t tell them it’s for a duck or they won’t sell it to you.
Applying creams for piles shrinks the blood vessels of the chicken’s prolapsed tissues, but does not shrink the prolapse. Instead, it inhibits blood circulation in the prolapsed tissues, drying it and making it tight and sore, which delays healing as the blood carries healing nutrients. Shrinking the blood vessels in the prolapsed tissues also means that any infection in those tissues cannot be cleared away as easily by the blood. So, although using a haemorrhoid cream seems “right” on an intuitive level, using it is actually counter-productive. In fact in some cases it can actually increase the inflammation. Use a lubricating cream instead. Also ensure to keep the duck’s vent clean using a warm saline solution. Never pick off any poo that has accumulated around the vent because you can cause more damage to already sore tissue; bathing the vent to keep it clean prevents the start of any infection.
Eirlys…actually, you’re pretty dead ass wrong. I’m a wildlife medical rehabilitator. Hemorrhoid cream is PRECISELY what is OK to use in this case, because that’s PRECISELY what a hemorrhoid is. It’s SAFE and EFFECTIVE for this application. It does not result in increased inflammation, it reduces inflammation, and vasso-constriction is the way any over the counter anti-inflammatory works. Additionally, a fresh prolapse is seldom going to be infected. They get infected from extended lack of attention or from damage to the tissues. And if that is the case, then the bird needs to be on an abx such as enrofloxacin to treat that anyway.
Salvon is nothing but a wound irrigant and topical disinfectant and will not help inflammation caused by mechanical trauma.
Your suggestion of using Bonjela is not wise. I read that in the UK this formulation includes lidocaine?? Lidocaine is not something that’s safe and responsible to advise lay persons be messing with in avians. It can cause cardiac arrest. Not to mention, while lidocaine topically may provide some superficial relief, IT actually can lead to further drying and irritation with repeated application as this product you’re recommending is intended for the MOUTH! Furthermore, lidocaine does absolutely nothing to address the inflammation. Hemorrhoid ointment DOES, and dexamethasone DOES. If you want a prolapsed and inflamed tissue to be safely returned to normal position, then you’re going to have to deal with inflammation. Nothing you have suggested properly addresses that.
I will pass your comments on to the member who gave me the information who can then contact the vet who advised her to use this method of treatment for haemorrhoids.
You may be a wildlife medical rehabilitator and although I not a vet I have used home remedies passed down to me from an elderly retired chickens keeper. The mention of Bonjela is new to me, I merely passed on information given to my forum member from a vet, who according to you, obviously knowns nothing about ducks or chickens.
I will pass your comments on to the member who gave me the information who can then contact the vet who advised her to use this method of treatment for haemorrhoids.
You may be a wildlife medical rehabilitator and although I not a vet I have used home remedies passed down to me from an elderly retired chickens keeper. The mention of Bonjela is new to me, I merely passed on information given to my forum member from a vet, who according to you, obviously knowns nothing about ducks or chickens.
Your input is obviously appreciated Mick but there are different types of treatment along with different medications in the UK to whatever country you come from.
To Rou, you might find these two links useful –
Rural Gardening: Duck with a prolapse type of problem and A Successfully Used Method for Treatment of a Duck with Prolapsed Oviduct.
The beauty of being able to share information like this is that you often get advice that while not necessarily by the book may well have worked effectively for some people. We often find that smallholders use many weird and wonderful remedies that have been passed down to good effect. In this case, in the absence of any further evidence, it may be wise to avoid the Bonjela but if one particular approach isn’t working for you then it may be worth trying some of the other suggestions here. If you see a rapid deterioration in condition though it is always best to seek the professional advice of a specialist poultry vet.
I am a medical wildlife rehabilitator, but I am also a veterinary journal article contributor to lafebervet.com. I teach vets things about exotics that they do not know, since wildlife are considered exotic. Avians are too actually, when you consider vets have little to no actual training with anything other than cats, dogs, and large farm animals in their formal schooling. Taking care of chickens is not something most of them learn much about in veterinary school, despite the fact that they are considered domestic to most people, and many don’t take continuing education to learn this once out of school either. In my personal experience, veterinarians certainly don’t know everything, or even as much as they think sometimes. I don’t fault them for not knowing everything about all species, but they aren’t typically accepting of the fact that when it comes to birds, reptiles, and wildlife, they aren’t often the source authority on the matter. I don’t hold myself out to be a great fountain of knowledge with dogs, cats, horses, and the like, so I don’t assert that I’m an expert in those areas. But what I do know very well are various species of small wildlife, particularly reptiles, and at least the pharmacological aspect of avians, which are the closest thing on earth medically speaking to a reptile. Just about anything in an avian formulary works safely for a reptile, and visa versa. You can’t say that about crossing over with most other classes of animal.I take care of back yard chickens for my personal friends, because while there are a great many farm animal vets in this area, few actually know much about birds and their judgements aren’t often very sound. They are better tending to cattle to be honest.
As to Pocket Farm’s comment about some things working for some people, I would say that medical science isn’t really this subjective when it comes to pharmacology. There are some things which are constants. The fact that in the UK Bonjela is formulated with lidocaine, and lidocaine isn’t exactly the safest thing to use with a bird, is not a matter of subjective interpretation. You may get away with using it without incident, especially the larger the bird, but it can cause tachycardia and cardiac arrest in birds and this is known. I’ve seen very small amounts of lidocaine cause cardiac arrest. In an ointment formulation, it’s much more likely to be liberally applied and lead to adverse reactions. It’s simply safer to refrain from using something which contains lidocaine with a bird, and especially on highly vascularized tissues, such as rectal prolapse. When I give my opinion on this, it’s with a view to that fact that this condition can be safely treated in many other manners while avoiding things which carry such risks as lidocaine.
And, again, the Salvon may be OK for initially cleaning tissue that could be lacerated and infected, but #1. prolapses are rarely infected if they are fresh, and #2. Salvon, as an antimicrobial, may have adverse effects on being taken internally if the tissue is returned to normal position anytime soon. It must be remembered that prolapsed rectal tissue should not be treated as just a topical tissue, it should be treated as internal tissues, and anything you wouldn’t want contacting internal tissues, you probably should not put on a rectal prolapse. I would actually recommend a stiff rinse with saline or sterile water if it doesn’t look infected and it was relative debris free and fresh. Many medical studies indicate that in wound irrigation saline or sterile water was just as effective at preventing infection as antimicrobial rinses. The key is making sure it’s irrigated clean with a sterile fluid more than the contents having highly potent antimicrobial strength. Additionally, repeated use of antimicrobials on a wound may have the tendency of delaying wound healing because it interferes also with migration of wound repairing cells, so limiting their use to the initial day or two of treatment may be best.
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Our 2 year old hen has just prolapsed. Late on a Sunday eve. Nothing in stock other than TCP. So diluted TCP with warm water, cleaned the area that was a little bloody but not too bad. Then gently pushed back in – took a couple of tries as was pulsating and popping back out. Think it’s in now. We’ve put her in the bike shed (removed bikes) as no pet container. She has water & hemp bedding and a perch of sorts. I’m worried that it’ll be very hot in the shed during the day – it was 26’c today! Any thing I can do? I’m working all day tomorrow so tricky!! I’ve no mixed corn just layers pellets. Can I give her scrambled egg with cod liver oil as have both of these? Any advice greatly received! Huge thanks!!
Hi I have no direct experience of prolapse but know members of the Battery Rechargers (ex battery hen forum) https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cages2coops/info do so it might be worth a post on there.
I’m currently dealing with a prolapse in a young hen. I cleaned her up with warm water in the kitchen sink which dissolved feces from the feathers and prolapse. I had to work with what I had on hand. So I used a little bit of coconut oil. (Again all I had on hand we live an hour from the closest town). While I was applying the oil I had her upside down under my arm. The prolapse went in pretty much by itself. But as soon as I put her right side up it popped out again. So wash it again and apply more coconut oil. Except this time I kept her secured butt in the air for about five mins. Let gravity do its thing. Hey it worked with cows and horses!! Why not a chicken?
After i put her right side up the prolapse stayed in that was 14 hours ago.
Now… what do I need to watch for with regards to infection?
I did run to town and grab some prep-h for swelling and covered the area. But she is still very swollen.
Thanks for sharing your successful experience here, its always great to have this kind of feedback so others have as many options to try as possible. Discharge would be the obvious sign of infection but if it is more internal your bird will become subdued and maybe withdrawn – she will act differently to normal so just keep an eye on her. Get her to a vet quick if she looks unwell as hens can go downhill very quickly.
Pleased to head you managed to resolve the prolapse problem but the swelling is a cause for concern. Manuka Honey is thought to one of the best ways to reduce swelling. Witch Hazel will cause insufferable burning on swollen flesh so personally I don’t advise it.
My immediate reaction would be to get her to a chicken friendly vet who knows about chickens. That swelling may be due to an infection from a broken egg that was waiting to be laid. Egg laying is a converyor belt system in order tha there an egg ready for laying every day. It is possible there may be a broken egg inside her which is becoming infected. This could eventually cause egg yolk peritonitis. Basically it comes down to how much your hen means to you – is she a special pet or just a backyard chicken in a flock from which you can get eggs.
A vet will be able to tell you if there is an infection there and if there is it needs to be treated pdq. Depending on how much you are prepared to spend to save your hen an X-Ray will show how many eggs are awaiting lay and at wtage they are at but more importantly whether the next egg in line is entire or broken. If it’s broken your hen needs immediate attention.
I have a NHR hen who was laying jumbo size eggs , eventually she started having prolapses at around 1.5 years old & i did all that has been recommended on this site, but never tried to apply any thing to the area, or push it back in, for fear of infection , but i had a different way to get the prolapse to go back in, is by holding my hen upside down in a hug against my body & then i jumped up & down, doing this will help the prolapses to go back in, but what else i found is that the hen seems to be constipated & possibly dehydrated, so if the egg goes back in ,i allow the hen to walk around a bit so she can try to eliminate the blocked up waist which seem to be stuck along with the egg, so after she is able to eliminate the poop i bring her in & if need be i rinse her off with warm water & get her pen ready with clean news paper in my laundry room were i can control the light, i feed scratch water & vitamins & leave on a tiny light so she can see her food to eat & drink, but limiting light to help stop the egg laying, but around the 3 rd day in late after noon,i open the out side door to the laundry room to let the other hens come see her so she wont be forgotten, but i keep her in long enough to completely stop the eggs for many months, until the next time which its usually in the beginning of summer here in AZ my red hen had been out with all the other hens,from the molt until beginning of summer ,but i checked her every night in the coop, so this last time the 3 rd time she Pprolapsed i was going to bring her to the bird vet for meds that stop the reproduction cycle,or what evre would have cured my poor hen from this yearly horror , sot this last time just before making the call to the vet, we tried a new way & its worked so well i was stunned ,when my good friend who is in her own right one of the best natural born chicken vets ever & knowing all the best ways keep your chickens well & healthy ,so my red hen with the next prolapse, my good friend recommended that i get some caltrate a human calcium supplement , I found it at the dollar store for a good low price, & i was to crushed up 2 pills a day & feed it to my hen i did that with some bread in tuna water along with poly vi sol baby vits & that began to really help my hen very fast so i could let her out with the rest of the hens & she has laid good size eggs all season long ever since with out any sign of a problem so using the caltrate is a good remedy for prolapse pron hens..? it cant hurt them so why not try it..!! 🙂 good luck all
So pleased to hear you managed to sort out your hen’s prolapse problem, and how lucky you are to have a friend who has knowledge of chicken illnesses and problems. A truly ‘chicken friendly’ vet is very difficult to find in the UK.
I have Googled ‘Caltrate’ to find out where in the UK it can be bought but there are so many varieties e.g. added vitamins, is it just simple Caltrate you used?
Also may I please copy the information you have given onto a forum I run for people who have adopted ex-commercial hens? Many members have their own ways of dealing with hens who have prolapses, including giving an implant to stop the egg laying cycle so that both chicken and owner can have some peace and know that the hen will not suffer whilst the implant is effective.
If you prefer you can PM me. I don’t know if I am allowed to post my email address on here but Stuart has my permission to pass it on to you. I think we could exchange some very useful information about chicken keeping if you are willing.
Hi Eirlys Goode , o yes do as you wish copy away ,I got the regular type of caltrate which contains 600mg of calcium with 800 iu of vit D. so any kind of calcium supplement with the same ingredients will do im sure, i would also add in some vit E & vit C along with the liquid baby vits & i give her a 50 billion probiotics supplement like once a week , just trying to address what ever could have been wrong with her..? & because she could have been dehydrated i also fed her a lot of liquids , but how to make a chicken drink , i fed her tuna water & she loved it & that is always a great to hydrate any animal, in fact i saved dying old cats with lots of tuna water, but no dry food after that only a good quality wet canned cat food , but during the recovery which would be around a weeks time & the cat should be acting much better , so if need be just feed bits of tuna in the tuna water that goes for chickens to.!& the cats came back well & even lived for many years after,( we did take my friends cat to a vet who wanted $700.00 to try & save the cat HA ) & it only costs a few dollars for the 10 cans of canned tuna, so always use you inner wisdom with most any situation , my first instinct was to feed lots of liquids & oil to my hen along with tissue healing vits & vits that will help repair the elasticity to the area, seeing how that body part works elasticity is he main thing that is needed ! i will re dose my red hen this week with every thing i just mentioned above feeding her dinner meals for about week or so to help keep her in good condition before summer & so in years to come I will report back as to how its going with my red hen, she is the only hen that has had this problem out of my flock of 60, so it seem that some animals are born with a weakness & keeping them well & healthy is our job, so mostly its using our inner instincts to heal & investigate all natural ways that can help do that best, i wish you the best of LUCK take care kindest regards Dianna O and yes Stuart has my permission to pass my e mail address on to you. SO YES PM ME ANY TIME.! 🙂
Dianna, thank you for all that useful information. Actually I am fairly ‘au fait’ about treating poorly chickens; I run a forum for people who have adopted ex-commercial hens and with time a lot of the longer serving members have been able to advise new chicken keepers with information about the care and attention they need when they are first released from cages or barns.
I can offer you one tip as to how to hydrate a chicken that won’t eat or drink of its own accord. Get a 2mg syringe and fill it with body temperature sweetened water (boil some water and add sugar, honey or glucose then allow to cool). You can of course just use water on its own. Tuck the hen under one arm ensuring you are able to reach the beak with the hand of whichever arm you have tucked the hen under so that you can open the beak enough to get the tip of the syringe into then using your lead hand, depending on whether you are right handed or left handed, put the tip of the syringe just inside the left hand side of the beak, must be left hand side of the beak and drip a few drops of fluid from the syringe into the beak. Just give a little at a time and be prepared to be bathed because the chicken will shake its head. By using a syringe you can monitor exactly how much fluid the chicken is getting. You can give as much or as little at a time at intervals of your choice to keep the chicken hydrated. Never drip any fluid into the centre of any chicken’s beak because it will go straight into their lungs, a sure way to kill your chicken by drowning.
I also have a “Sick Chook Diet” sheet which I can send you if you are interested. It is named so because it was sent in by one of our Australian members and you probably know that chickens are called chooks in Australia. Several members and other people from different chicken groups have used it with great success. Let me know if you would like a copy and I’ll liaise with Stuart re: email addresses etc.
I’m very pleased to hear your red hen is improving and hope she continues to do so and returns to full health very soon.
I have fed some sick cats exactly as you have so we must be doing something right!
Thanks for sharing everyone. Great feedback.
Hi one for Mick if he’s listening in. I have a hen just badly prolapsed, she keeps pushing it out, my ww2 smallholder book recommends washing with a potassium permanganate solution and using boracic ointment (that would be astringent if it was obtainable! I’ve just mixed some boric acid with Vaseline. I’ve made a retainer out of a self adhesive bandage and she’s hanging in a plastic bag with her wings and legs restrained as best as possible (the advice from the oldbook) . So for Mick, do you have any advice on stitching (I’ve got 25 years experience as a shepherd and have stitched many a sheep) also is depomycin ok as an antibiotic in chooks? I’m going to try some honey on her shortly and see if I can persuade her not to push it out that way. Age of chicken nit known, I captured her and several mates from the roadside where they had been dumped. She is the prettiest so I’d prefer not to lose her!
Madmeg, if everything you have tried so far has not worked and you have read previous advice given if you wait for a reply from Mick you might well be too late to save her. At the risk of being shot down in flames I would suggest that if everything you have tried so far has not worked it is time to take her to an experienced avian vet to suture the prolapse back in place then seriously consider having her implanted in order to avoid any further problems regarding egg laying.
Unfortunately, I don’t monitor this email much anymore. If you need to reach me more quickly I can be messaged on facebook at Wichita Falls Reptile Rescue.
Is the chicken still alive, first of all?
I did give some pretty exhaustive recommendations previously. That would be the first place to start. If that’s not working, then other options can be discussed. I don’t know what you mean by advice on stitching. If the tissue is not remaining in place, then suturing may be necessary to hold it in place until swelling goes down and there is healing. There’s not really anything more to say about it than that, so if you’re not sure how to proceed with that, then don’t. Find someone who does know how to do it.
I’m not familiar with that named antibiotic and I’d need to know exactly what it is by drug name, not brand name. But antibiotics shouldn’t be reached for just because, regardless. They should only be used if there’s an actual need based on evidence of an infection. Just because there is a prolapse doesn’t mean there is an infection. Antibiotics can make the situation worse.
Hi, first isolate the affected chicken as u keep on sterilizing her back end off with warm water. was caught in such scenario last month but now my chickens are ok.
I have a Rhode Island Red that had gotten some egg goo frozen on her butt (its 10-15 degrees here right now)…I didn’t see it until I went to shut them up for the night. I brought her inside and cleaned it off and she was severely prolapsed. I applied honey and coconut oil and slowly eased it back in and put her in a box inside for the night. I have been doing that for the last four days and it is not staying in. Today I was finally off work and have held this chicken upside down all damn day, she prolapses every time she poops. The vet here is useless (i live in a remote town with 3k people)and they say they don’t work on chickens. She appears perky and alert, and I’ve only been feeding her small portions of egg and cod liver oil and fish chowder with cooked barley (soft foods). I’ve also been sprinkling calcium citrate on her food and in her water. I am at my wits end! I absolutely adore this chicken, she is my pet…I am a vegan and don’t even eat eggs! I got her as a chick and raised her, she is only 10 months old! I have to leave to go to Georgia for 9 days on the 24th…is there anything else I can do to fix her???? I don’t want her to die 🙁